Congress, STEM, and Space

AIP FYI #83: Mickelson, Ride Bring STEM to the Hill

"On the subject of women in the sciences, Ride said, "the number of women are still lagging behind the number of men, particularly in physics, which is my field, and engineering." Ride noted that statistics indicate elementary school students are very interested in science, but female students somewhat less so. Explaining the importance of these figures, Ride said, "In fourth grade fully two-thirds of our kids still like science, the schools haven't beaten it out of them yet." She continued, "starting at about fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade, we start to loose both the boys and the girls, but we loose girls at greater numbers than boys." Ride suggested that the reason girls lose interest in science is because of the messages society sends to girls that they internalize and feel discouraged by."


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I'm trying this from Myrtle Beach on my BB.

I would disagree with Dr. Ride. What happens to humans at the ages that correlate to the grade levels she mentions?

Puberty.

Unless you've forgotten, everything in a child's life begins to revolve around the societal path towards mating and reproduction at this time.

The issues Dr. Ride raises are not societal, but biological. They work to ensure the continuation of the species.

So only the female students get so sidetracked by reproduction that they tend to sway away from the sciences?

The a discrepancy between the number of men and women in STEM has nothing to do with ensuring the continuation of our species.

KP, I was on the Internet Movie Database this AM, reading the memorable quotes from "Toy Story 2".

What happened to Emily as she became a teenager, and how did it affect Jessie?

I blew past the astronaut's maximum height at age 10, in 1965. I still followed the goings-on, after all, they would land on the Moon four years later. How could a kid not be interested?

But as time passed, I found other things to be interested in; radio and electronics, muscle cars. I was told that I had a great radio voice, and should pursue that career path. I never got there.

If everyone pursued scientific careers, who would be left to do all of the other things that make the world go around?

Sally mentions the schools' "beating it out of them." This is, IMHO, the tip of a huge iceberg.

Last October, I had an interesting conversation with Billy Rose, one of the Rocket Boys. Seems that my educational experience was quite similar to his, that being "it's OK to dream, just don't dream too far."

Like many, I followed my father into the steel mill, but was fortunate to have learned a trade that was useful when the mill closed.

So, what have your educational experiences been like? Did your school, like mine, actively discourage you from pursuing a technical career? Do you currently work in a male-dominated technical field? I invite you, and all who read this, to share.

I have been working in the field of industrial instrumentation and control systems for the past 30 years. It's as far from my childhood "dream" of playing records on the radio as I could be!

My post is not to say that everyone should be going into technical and scientific fields of work. I mean that there must be something happening which is driving women away from it more so than men. As a woman, that concerns me and I wouldn't dismiss it to puberty.

I don't know that my schools ever discouraged me from pursuing a technical field, though I didn't enter one. I work for NASA in a non-technical position and I'm happy to be where I am. My parents always encouraged me to pursue something STEM-related because I did well in those subjects, but I ended up swaying away.

Personally, whether it be because of my parents' influence, my unbiased educators, or my natural abilities, I never felt as though technical fields were off limits to me. It still concerns me that these are male-dominated fields, though, and I would like to understand why.

Dear KP,

I had to literally sleep on your thoughts so that I might grasp their full meaning.

It appears to me, and I am being entirely truthful, that you may be far better qualified to answer Dr. Ride's questions.

You had the interest, you had the "right stuff", and although your career path has brought you to NASA, you chose a non-technical career.

If you could put your finger on the "why not", perhaps you might contact Dr. Ride with your answer. She cannot answer the question because she never saw the invisible barrier on her way to space.

I wish that this discussion would not scroll off of Keith's page, because it has been quite interesting.

My own interest is in finding out how people's current careers match up with what they wanted to be.

In 1970, my high school "guidance counselor" refused to allow me to pursue an education in electronics technology until I told him that I wanted to be the chief engineer at KDKA someday.

My current career- my life's work- has proven to have been far more rewarding than a career in broadcasting ever could have.

I am doing what I was supposed to be doing.

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