August 2, 2008
Obama Reverses Campaign Stance on Constellation Cuts

Editor's note: During a campaign appearance in Titusville, FL on Saturday, Democratic candidate Sen. Obama commented on NASA. As part of a response to a question on oceanic research, he brought up the topic of NASA. He said "I know it's still being reported that we were talking about delaying some aspects of the Constellation program to pay for our early education program. I told my staff we're going to find an entirely different offset, because we've got to make sure that the money that's going into NASA for basic research and development continues to go there. That has been a top priority for us."
"This is an administration that is anti-science. They have rejected science - I want us to be a science-based society."
Editor's note: If you look at this original version of "Barack Obama's Plan For Lifetime Success Through Education" as first posted officialy some months ago, Section IX says "The early education plan will be paid for by delaying the NASA Constellation Program for five years". Yet, if you read the current version, that sentence about NASA is now gone. So this was more than just an issue of something "being reported". It was on Obama's own website, in one of his official position papers. This certainly strikes me as a policy reversal - albeit a positive one.
Obama says he will protect NASA jobs, budget, Orlando Sentinel
"That position had been "reported" on Obama's official campaign Web site until it was removed Saturday. The campaign of Republican rival John McCain was quick to point that out, declaring in a news release, "Barack Obama once again demonstrated that his words really don't matter."
Editor's update: According to the official Obama Blog:
"Barack was in Titusville, Florida this morning for a "Working for Change" town hall. Along with the economy, Barack talked about the need to focus on space exploration and the effect it has on Florida residents. He said..."
"And we have to do more than provide short-term relief. We have to secure our long-term prosperity and strengthen America's competitiveness in the 21st century. One of the areas where we are in danger of losing our competitive edge is our space program. When I was growing up, NASA inspired the world with achievements we are still proud of. Today, we have an administration that has set ambitious goals for NASA without giving NASA the support it needs to reach them. As a result, they've had to cut back on research, and trim their programs, which means that after the Space Shuttle shuts down in 2010, we're going to have to rely on Russian spacecraft to keep us in orbit.
We cannot cede our leadership in space. That's why I will help close the gap and ensure that our space program doesn't suffer when the Shuttle goes out of service by working with Senator Bill Nelson to add at least one additional Space Shuttle flight beyond 2010; by supporting continued funding for NASA; by speeding the development of the Shuttle's successor; and by making sure that all those who work in the space industry in Florida do not lose their jobs when the Shuttle is retired - because we cannot afford to lose their expertise.
More broadly, we need a real vision for space exploration. To help formulate this vision, I'll reestablish the National Aeronautics and Space Council so that we can develop a plan to explore the solar system - a plan that involves both human and robotic missions, and enlists both international partners and the private sector. And as America leads the world to long-term exploration of the moon, Mars, and beyond, let's also tap NASA's ingenuity to build the airplanes of tomorrow and to study our own planet so we can combat global climate change. Under my watch, NASA will inspire the world, make America stronger, and help grow the economy here in Florida."
Posted by kcowing at August 2, 2008 11:28 AM
It's a decent statement. It doesn't seem to point to a continution of the Bush Administration's Vison for Space Exploration but at least it's aimed at the heavens, so I will retract some of the nasty thoughts I've expressed about Obama's lack of interest in manned space.
Of course the proof is the pudding, but until the pudding arrives, I'll eat some of my words, and think more positively of an Obama presidency. Crunch crunch -- more salt please.
-ms
Posted by: mike shupp at August 2, 2008 12:54 PMI'm still not hearing a simple declarative sentence about real support for both the human & robotic exploration programs. I'll believe it when I hear his sparkling oratory in support of funding Altair and Ares V development and production. If the only part of Constellation we get out of an Obama Administration is Ares I or some other variant, we are still just going around in circles.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 2, 2008 1:09 PMI'm with Diogenes here - a simple statement in support of the particular programs would be most clarifying. There aren't any real specifics there at all, except re-establishing the NASC and one more shuttle flight (probably for the physics folks?), which may not help at all. What has been needed has been more $$$ for funding the future development (Ares V and Altair) to get the hardware designed and built and to keep the important skilled technical people on the job and not in the bread line for four years. Not to quibble on points with the candidate, but wasn't it the post-Columbia commission report that stated that there should be no more shuttle flights after 2010 WITHOUT vehicle re-certification? That was a commission decision, not a decision attributable to a politician (the President). It seems like this whole statement is more political rhetoric aimed at garnering votes.
Posted by: former CA resident at August 2, 2008 1:45 PMI agree with the above 2 comments (Diogenes and Shupp). But my hope is that the "Alternate VSE" folks (Huntress, Hinners, et al) will be able to weigh in and morph the current "Vision" in a rational way in an Obama Administration. The current VSE has the potential to get us stuck on the moon for another generation as we have been in Earth orbit for the last one. I think the earlier (and depressing) Obama statements may have been a result of lack of research and development of the right "contacts" in this subject area. Now that he is talking with folks like Bill Nelson and maybe John Glenn, I knew that the earlier stance was not going to remain standing for long. But as the aforementioned posts say, the proof will not be obtained until the pudding is served...and that would also be true for any other candidate.
Posted by: Adastrasoul at August 2, 2008 1:58 PMHis comments should be welcome to all space advocates. For one thing, he said the word "Mars", which most politicians avoid like the plague. More generally, it is refreshing to hear a politician admit that they were mistaken about something. Coming from a presidential candidate, it's even better.
Posted by: Jeff at August 2, 2008 2:53 PMWith all due respect to Jeff in the previous comment..."it is refreshing to hear a politician admit that they were mistaken about something.".
If you believe that this was just a case of admitting you're wrong, I'd like to have whatever you're smoking. Considering that he was in Titusville today, home of KSC and a good amount of KSC workers (especially union), and he's rapidly losing ground in the polls to McCain, do you think he's going to be so stupid as come out to a major voting source in pivotal central Florida and say "No, I really don't support manned spaceflight, and I'm not really concerned that that's going to kill the entire Space Coast economy and lifestyle"
He's got a lot of ground to make up. The local KSC IAM union had a SCATHING attack on Obama when they gave their endorsement to Hillary during the primaries(which from going through the older posts seems to be deleted).
From the Feb. 21 2008 posting on the KSC IAM's website (iam2061update.blogspot.com)
"I guess we could say he is not flip-flopping, since he says he supports NASA, but he never steps away from a five year delay for Constellation. We all know if Constellation is stopped for 5 years, the entire program will be finished. A delay that large would all but end Human Space Exploration, and force us to buy seats from other countries to access the ISS.......... which the US Taxpayers footed the bill to construct.
It is nice to know his plan will lead to better educated students. I am sure Fast Food and Department store chains in our area, will appreciate the well educated population.............."
There's a difference between admitting you were wrong, and whitewashing your stance to all of a sudden appear that you were ALWAYS in favor of it.
Considering that anytime in the primaries he was asked about the space program, he immediately would say that climate change should be our new Apollo program, and
how we should focus more on non-manned missions, and then all of a sudden delete a often quote statement from his site?
If he's changed this much, imagine how much more he'll change when (if) he gets elected, and doesn't need to suck up to Central Florida anymore. THEN we'll see how much he supports Orion/Constellation.
Posted by: Mike at August 2, 2008 4:54 PMMy kids went to the Titusville appearance this morning. Here's a youtube of the NASA part of the speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdvAVSNRni4
He was introduced by Senator Nelson, from our district and of course a space flight supporter. Don't suppose that the fact the Democratic National party has targeted Rep Feeney (this is his district) has anything to do with this? Either way I'm glad as a NASA contractor on the Constellation Program to see this policy clearly stated, even if it is a change from before.
Posted by: Kevin at August 2, 2008 6:09 PMthat's pretty funny. new politician, all new, change is in the air, we are the people we've been waiting for, oops, whoa, hey i'm in front of shuttle workers, who may be in unions no less.... hey i'm in favor of one more shuttle flight and forget what i said about whacking nasa's budget to pay for education welfare. now all you space fairing democrats and astro biology mission to planet earth al gore and jim hanson are geniuses guys can safely vote for your democrat and in a couple years you can sit around and wonder why nasa can't do anything for 10 millionth time
Posted by: w.coyote at August 2, 2008 7:22 PMIt is nice to hear that he is becoming more educated about the space program, but why is it that every administration comes in, and spends a bunch of time studying NASA and re-prioritizing. We even saw that happen twice in the Bush Administration. Once for O'Keefe and once for Griffin.
Kennedy came out and said lets go to the moon. He was gone, and the next administration kept it rolling.
I say the reason NASA keeps losing people's attention and lacks inspiration is because every 3-4 years, we change our minds.
The most brilliant thing the next administration could do is read the studies already done and respect the smart people who contributed to them by continuing forward.
Let's finish what we started.
Posted by: Me at August 2, 2008 10:15 PMObama has no interest in space other than what it does for him politically. The Moon landing went on because Kennedy was a martyred and beloved President and because the Texas space booster LBJ was elected. What incentive does Obama have to continue and advocate a program started by the unpopular Bush, (other than to buy Florida and Texas votes)? Of course, Obama may be clever enough to put his own stamp on it. Nevertheless, space adventures are a risky business for politicians, since they carry so much symbolism. Bush used space to try to salvage his image, but Obama may not tolerate any early failures should they occur.
Typical politician - tell the people what they want to hear...
The problem is one he gets in office do you think the Titusville speech this weekend will mean anything? I think not and bet my career on it. I left KSC mostly because it looks like this guy will be president (and the obvious budget problems - come on Bush, if you propose a major NASA initiative then fund it). I thought maybe NASA had a chance after this speech but after reading what he actually said seeing what he says and does about other things I am convinced he is a untrustworthy politician - he'll turn on anyone that gets in the way of his plan for power, NASA included...
Well, I'll just say this - quite a few of us space and aerospace folks have been e-mailing the Obama campaign with regards to Obama's position on space in recent months. Obama now has more knowledgeable advisors to inform him on space and aeronautics though probably not the kind that can give in-depth technical perspective on "the gap" and the challenges NASA faces in dealing shuttle retirement while rushing to get Ares I aloft.
The overall intent of his new platform for space is given the many technological challenges facing our nation, particularly in the energy sector and climate change, the belief is in supporting NASA to continue to push the state of the art in space exploration and research, NASA can in turn provide innovations and information to deal with our energy crisis, environmental concerns and other pressing issues here on earth.
Clearly he's going to need the advice of the proposed National Aeronautics and Space Council in order to formulate an in-depth plan, one that explicitly relates to NASA programs and projects as we know them today. But this is a start in the right direction.
Posted by: evrm at August 4, 2008 10:45 PMSo how would you fund the much larger education budget now?
Obama: I would delay the tanker program.
Then,
Campaigning in St. Louis, Tanker Program is important...Bah. Bah. Bah...


