Belching Volcanoes or Fartin' Martians?

Life On Mars, The Sun

"NASA will hold a science update at 2 p.m. EST, Thursday, Jan. 15, to discuss analysis of the "ALIEN microbes living just below the Martian soil are responsible for a haze of methane around the Red Planet, Nasa scientists believe. The gas, belched in vast quantities in our world by cows, was detected by orbiting spacecraft and from Earth using giant telescopes. Nasa are today expected to confirm its presence during a briefing at their Washington HQ. And the find is seen as exciting new evidence that Martian microbes are still alive today. Some scientists reckon methane is also produced by volcanic processes. But there are NO known active volcanoes on Mars."

Has Nasa found life on Mars?, Guardian

"If a newspaper headline ends in a question mark, the answer is almost always "no". And so it is in this case. Later today, Nasa scientists will announce they have detected enormous releases of methane from Mars. Could it be evidence of martian life? Undoubtedly yes. Is it proof of life on Mars? Certainly not."

Water and methane together equal life on Mars?, Times of India

"A report to be carried in Friday's issue of the journal Science details the observations, made using three telescopes in Hawaii. "The most compelling question relates to the origin of methane on Mars. The methane we detected is of unknown age--its origin could be ancient or perhaps recent," Michael Mumma of NASA and colleagues wrote. The methane appears to have been produced in plumes from certain areas on Mars as temperatures warmed, they said. "Living systems produce more than 90 percent of Earth's atmospheric methane; the balance is of geochemical origin. On Mars, methane could be a signature of either origin," they added."

Clouds of Methane May Mean Life on Mars, Fox News

"(American media outlets are not yet reporting the story because they're honoring an "embargo," a promise to not run a story until a designated time, in this case 2 p.m. EST, when NASA is expected to hold a press conference. The Sun "broke" the embargo, prompting other British papers to follow suit.)"

Editor's update: Classic exaggerated arm waving from the British press - as linked to by the Drudge Report.

Meanwhile, if this embargo information is true (I am checking) then I'd really like to know why news outlets in foreign countries are provided with official NASA news before American taxpayers - the people who actually paid for the research. Indeed, one of the papers above engages in soft porn with their "page 3" photo spreads.

Update: NASA HQ PAO tells me that they have not released anything under embargo. I have not been sent anything under embargo from anyone else so I do not know what is being referred to. But the Times of India is apparently quoting an article in Science magazine - so someone at Science must have sent something out that found its way to them.

This is NASA research and NASA PAO is not even in on the embargo. Michael Mumma is a NASA employee and the research is being announced at a NASA press conference. Very strange. Stay tuned.

NASA Science Update to Discuss Mars Atmosphere Activity

"NASA will hold a science update at 2 p.m. EST, Thursday, Jan. 15, to discuss analysis of the Martian atmosphere that raises the possibility of life or geologic activity. The briefing will take place in the James E. Webb Memorial Auditorium at NASA Headquarters, 300 E St., S.W., Washington, and carried live on NASA Television."


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Are there any solar powered chemical reactions that can convert say carbon dioxide (or monoxide) plus water into methane?

CO2 + 2 H2O = CH4 + 3 O2

There are plenty of other chemicals around that can act as a catalyst or intermediate stage.

Actually bearing in mind this is The Sun... (rather like the National Enquirer but without the journalistic integrity;) this is rather good science reporting by this tabloid even though it is almost certainly "waving its arms" as is Colin (British Beagle II Boffin) Pillinger. But with respect to a scientist with far more standing in the subject than I, whilst Methane sourced from recent cometary impact or some other alien surface or subsurface chemistry is a possibility; Occam's razor applies. And if the methane emissions can be linked to say the Seven Sisters of Arsia Mons...

Has Nasa sorry NASA got any spelunking space probes?

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No, no, Vacuum.Head: This article was on Page One of the Sun; Arsia Mons are on Page Three...

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comment to Keith:

Sorry, didn't know how to contact you with a submission (or even if it is allowed)

Knowing your occasoinally-expressed affection for things Star Trek (shared by many of us), I just noticed this sad item:

Ricardo Montalban has Died
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/01/14/ricardo-montalban-has-died/


from the link:

Throughout his career Montalban moved easily between film and television, always making a memorable impression, most especially as one of history’s all-time great screen villains — James T. Kirk’s nemesis Khan, in the second Star Trek film.

Ricardo Montalban could say he danced with a goddess and nearly brought down Captain Kirk.

Not a bad career. Not bad at all.

Of course the English are going to get all excited about news of Martian life - an Englishman wrote The War of the Worlds after all, and they've got that Dr. Who guy running around space and time battling aliens.

So where is this methane leak coming from? Is it too late to redirect MSL? Will the ESA rover happen now from this announcement? Time to take another look at the Mars meteorite ALH84001 and all the others.

Mars life must be pretty hardy if it can survive on that planet, even underground. Carl Sagan would be happy.

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The very convenient timing of this "announcement" makes it, in my view, suspicious.

We already knew Mars had methane, and as per the Mars Express probe we knew from the non-homogeneous distribution that it was bound to be continuously generated somewhere.

This is not an announcement, just a confirmation of what we already knew.

Was amused by the second line in The Sun's article:


"The gas, belched in vast quantities in our world by cows, was detected by orbiting spacecraft and from Earth using giant telescopes."


OMG -- "Cows on Mars"! Run, Marvin, run! (maybe that explains the graphic above ... ;-) )

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Lowly HQ Contractor--

The announcement timing isn't some sort of conspiracy. The PFS measurements from Mars Express were interesting, but they weren't particularly convincing. Besides, the ground-based campaign these measurements are from was in the works for some time and represents considerable effort in data reduction and analysis. They represent multiple nights of measurements with high resolution spectrometry beyond what you can get on a Mars orbiter. For years, people like me kept asking the people on this project, "When are you publishing?" Last year, they said they had a paper in the pipeline. The last few meetings they told us that Science had it under review. Now, Science is going to publish it after lengthy peer review, so there's a press conference now. The same thing occurred with the ALH84001 paper. If it's a conspiracy, it's by Science, which probably didn't want to publish this result around Christmas or New Year's or so soon after the carbonates discovery by Ehlmann et al.

Tea42--

From what I hear, it's thought that MSL's instrument package doesn't need to be right over the methane to detect it and depending on the source, it's not clear whether the instrument package really would be helpful right at the source.

I'm looking forward to reading the Science paper soon. This is very exciting work carefully done, even if I don't think microbes are likely to be involved.

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Dear, oh dear, an even more po-faced than normal posting, Keith. The fact that the Sun - a mass market newspaper read by millions - carries a really quite accurate space science story on its front page (even mentioning the Mars Express detection of methane in 2004) is something to be applauded. Just because it was a few hours before folks in the US were waking up hardly matters. The story also emphasises again how sad was the loss of Beagle 2, since it DID carry exactly the right instrument (a miniaturised mass spectrometer) to measure isotopes of gases in the Martian atmosphere and distinguish between organic and inorganic sources. What your US readers may not know is the technology for that instrument is now being adapted by Pillinger's team for healthcare applications in the developing world - for example, tuberculosis diagnosis. So the legacy of Beagle 2 lives on.

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