China and U.S. To Cooperate in Space (And On Trains)

Translation: China will cooperate with the US in space as long as the US foots 90% of the bill for any joint exploratory effort while transferring US space technology to China.

a) It is unlikely that China will lend you the money to foot 90% of the bill in the first place. 90%?
b) They don't need antiquated American space technology (*Apollo* on Steroids) when they can use antiquated Russian technology (Soyuz on Viagra!)
c) If America does come up with a better rocket than say your RD-180... perhaps this way you can SELL them the technology!

Enough of the Cold War ideology already! The sooner we can break down the old barriers to progress the better.
To add fuel to the plume :)

“If you believe in a security strategy -- a strategy of more friends and fewer enemies, a strategy of greater cooperation and a strategy of keeping America better at home as we grow more diverse -- we have to build the minds and hearts to build this kind of world.”

Bill Clinton
At least by cooperating with the Russians you got your Freedom!

We already gave them the fruits of Tsien's education, so its a little late to get provincial about it. We have to engage China like we engaged the USSR in space. I'm fine with seeing a Shenzhou capsule at ISS. I don't care about bluster over human rights abuses as a reason to exclude them.

More people in space doing more stuff. I don't care who pays for it. We've wasted enough time already.

The prepared statements reflects what each side wants to get out there as their message. It's just part of the diplomatic process.

You'll notice President Obama's statement made no mention of space. This is just China putting it out there that they are willing to cooperate on space, what the scope and conditions are, well that's still to be negotiated, if the US is interested. In other words, we are still at status quo.

This raises, among other issues, some interesting questions about ITAR. I say give the Chinese ARES-1 data and let THEM solve the Thrust Oscillation problem!(They may already have the solution!)
Hey, at least work a deal on ISS and let them contribute to the Great White Elephant in the Sky!

This is good news and a huge opportunity for commercial and civil space. Commercial access to Shenzhou would provide welcome competition to Soyuz when it's the only way Up until Dragon, Cygnus or Orion comes online.

Since China already owns $800 billion in US debt I think that they already own the mortgage to the US interest in the ISS. And they would be all too happy to take it off our hands. I really don't understand the ignorance of the posters that are so negative about the space station. It along with the space shuttle are engineering wonders and are a necessary next step in the human space exploration. Would you rather be 2 months into a Mars expedition and find out that the water recycling hardware is broken?

Inviting china to join the ISS program maes sense. ISS is short on capital and needs a new partner with deep pockets and capable rockets. China wants to be accepted as a member of the first rank of industrialized nations.

What makes no sense is the widespread suggestion that the US should engage China in a new race to the moon. The US and China need measures to build trust and cooperation, not fear, hostility, and potentially military confrontation,

Hmm, China builds the Qinghai–Tibet railway to loot Tibet's natural resources and heavily encourages people to migrate to Tibet in a clever cultural genocide. It is interesting because China is repeating the USA's actions in some cases, but in a different world.

Anyway, the more space the better.

One should remember that when Communists say "cooperation" they mean "Domination"...on their end.

Yes, and the Cro-Magnon's committed genocide on those poor Neanderthals. And this pertains to space exploration how? Do something constructive Mike, take a hike.

I totally agree. Glad reading your page. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Its glad to hear that China and U.S. was able to cooperate in space.

If this is true, I think this cooperation of China and US will be successful.

Glad reading your page.