Jay Barbree Needs A Fact Checker

I ordinarily like MSNBC, but this is a crock. Sounds like Barbree became the mouthpiece for one or two Griffin/ESAS lovers.

Keith, this is not the first time that Barbree gets his facts wrong. At the Ares X-1 prelaunch news conference, the subject of the year-to-date total costs of Constellation came up. Jay repeatingly kept stating that it was $400 billion. He said this about four times until the speaker corrected him.

I'm sorry but you expect facts now? Facts went out of the window when people started drawing the battle lines. it's all propoganda and senators doing what they can to get re-elected whilst abusing the space programme.

It's interesting to see how in this MSNBC interview, and in the Time magazine "Invention of the Year" presentation, there is a total lack of appreciation for the very real deficiencies of Ares1-Orion. The Time magazine presentation implied that Ares1-X was Ares1.

I'm wondering just how prevalent among the public is this tendency to think of Constellation so simplistically and favorably.

Oh come on now Keith, give him a little credit - at least he was right about Neil Armstrong being the first man on the moon - after all, he could have reported it was José Jiménez.

You are such a nit-picker.

Barbree is working for the wrong station. He sounds more like a Faux News loonie.

And there are absolutely no tanks in baghdad. It's impossible.

"Finally, this jihad against exploration and science will end."

This means nothing.

Until a Lunch system to LEO is cheap or some how profitable.period.

Damn the gravity!

Yeah, it starts with Jay saying things like "Michael Griffin is the best rocket engineer in the world" and then seems to rapidly head for crazy town. Jay used to be excellent, and really needs to talk to some modern experts.

BTW, all this "we're not ready to go commercial" stuff reminds me of when a certain national leader asked a nation to go to the Moon when they'd barely reached space, and do it in less than a decade. That was also mainly done by the commercial sector, during which time two more LEO HSF launch systems, plus variations, were built.

LM itself says that Orion Lite could be flying on an EELV within 3 years, with the capability to be used on three launchers. There are 3 US-based commercial options, and at least four more international systems that have the throw mass to LEO. Generally the capsule has been regarded as the short straw here, and there's a heck of a lot of lead time, and available expertise, to make that happen. The Human species is going to retain, grow, and move beyond LEO HSF very quickly.

Actually, your comments are garbage and your constant CxP cheerleading and Obama bashing is getting stale. At least you can be counted on for a laugh each time I visit NASA Watch.

Jihad? Good grief.

The new plan is garage?

The only garbage is what was removed, CxP! lol

The truth hurts. The new plan is garbage.

"Truth"?

What has truth got to do with Barbree's misinformation spree?

The new plan will not be funded any more than the old plan was, which is a design feature, but that doesn't change the fact that the old plan was screwed up beyond retrieval.

FCC FORM 2000E - MEDIA (GENERAL) COMPLAINT filed
False statements on White House Policy, NASA Policy, Budget and program costs

While Fox News is far from perfect, they are considerably better than MSNBC... So please, keep Jay right where he is please. If ANYONE goes just to Fox, or just to MSNBC, or CNN or whatever; you are stuck in your personal paradigm and will never get a full picture of what is going on.

First of all, the info babe had a tough time reading the teleprompter; not only does she not have a clue of what she is reading, she really doesn't care. If news reporting organizations cannot find the motivation to accurately report what is going on inside and around NASA, the public at large will never have the facts.

The problem is we have reporters trying to talk about something of which they have no clue. Seriously, Mike Griffin the most brilliant rocket scientist ever? Jay may have been great "back in the day", but he is living on a legacy.

I wonder if "lower level bureaucrats" means Garver? I am not an Obama basher and I cannot stand the "its George W. Bush's fault" crowd either. However, this is the plan our Commander in Chief has presented us with and people are not happy about it...

... whether you have a (D), (R), or (I) next to your name.

VR
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If you wish to ask MSNBC to correct the story in error

please do so here.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28037762/

Here is the correct reference:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=33643
The MSNBC story in error.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/35709113#35709113

have fun!

Next they'll blame Lori Garver for climate change and the rise of the cost of milk and eggs. Good grief some people need to abandon their conspiracy theories and join the reality-based series called real life...

Zapkitty, the "truth" is akear is nothing but a troll and adds nothing to the discussion, no arguments, just constant yacking about CxP and anything anti-Obama.

It amazes me how little the layperson knows about HSF. Just on friday I was working around the house, and I heard a young girl and some guys walk behind my vehicle (which has mission patch stickers for every mission I did work for, and a NASA meatball and old worm logo) The girl says "OH N.A.S.A. is a real company, wow, I just thought it was in the movies or something"
Seriously. So I really do not doubt that most of the reporters know much more than that young blond girl.

Sad state of affairs.