IFPTE Weighs In On NASA Budget

Honest?

No, that is impossible to ascertain.
Nothing has been done yet. Trust is earned, always. And his last promises on the space coast from the campaign of course are worth nada. So the track record is not honest from this guy. We have no idea how "honest" this is.

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Forward looking?

No.
That is opinion and very campaigny type language.

Everything can be said to be forward looking.

So what? Wait five years to do heavy lift?

Why?

We can start today.

Forward looking? without even a named spacecraft project to do so in? No. Sorry.

But it is a union boss saying this campaigny stuff and unions are almost always easily in the pocket of the President's political party.

Lee Stone sure has a lot of opinions about how money should (not) be spent on engineering for a research psychologist.

> "In particular, we ask that you work with the Administration to segregate all R&T funds from the operational and vehicle-development programs."

The strategy seems to be to cancel Constellation to cut HSF funding and throw their house into disarray, shift funds to R&T, and then try to make this wondrous arrangement permanent. Makes me sick.

The partisan bias of many on this site is laughable. The opinions on human space flight are archaic, backwards, and wrong. Constellation is/was unaffordable and unsustainable. It is a miserable failure from every perspective; cost, schedule and technical. The 2011 budget proposal from Obama is, in fact, honest and forward-looking. This is obvious to anyone except those with a blind hatred for anything that Obama proposes. You folks just can't think of anything original.

I see both sides, close up. Neither is perfect, both have strengths and weaknesses. I am an Obama supporter on most issues. Not this.

We need a balanced, sane approach. The pendulum has swung wildly back and forth, both ways, causing havoc in the workforce on both sides. I'd ask Obama for balance and stability. For both sides.

The "Show me the money!" saying is particularly relevant. For almost half a century both democrats and republicans have over promised while cutting funding. I would rather see a realistic if disappointing plan that will be carried out than continued false promises based more upon power point presentations than outer space activities.
The bottom line is funding must match the plan and the plan has to stay in place and not constantly be revised if we are to make progress. It is true Obama could still disappoint with NASA, but then he will be exactly like every president and NASA administrator since Nixon.

"The 2011 budget proposal from Obama is, in fact, honest and forward-looking. ... You folks just can't think of anything original."

Then how come you ignore the fact that Obama's budget is defective, canceling follow-on HSF with no replacement plan in place, effectively killing US HSF? Claims by those wanting money that they can do it in 3 years or less are not valid since there is nothing to support such a claim, especially when NASA has not produced any requirements for this new field of commercial HSF.

yet your own political partisan bias is displayed too? pot calling the kettle black it seems, hmmmmmm?

"The 2011 budget proposal from Obama is, in fact, honest and forward-looking. This is obvious to anyone except those with a blind hatred for anything that Obama proposes."

NOT. I don't have any blind hatred for Obama, agree with him most of the time, so an attempt to discount critique as blind irrationality is most unoriginal.

we can only hope that you aren't of any significant influence in the policy, because if so, that would explain a lot.

Now, you are quite correct in your assessment of the CxP rocket unworthiness and most of their few remaining picketeers can be equated to tea-party-esque irrationality.

However, you are incorrect that the budget proposal from Obama is honest or forward looking - if the implication being that it equals a worthy NASA hsf program. It's a bad as CxP for both near term and long term hsf success results.

And unless you actually have any track record of working in a successful hsf program, your opine or bantering on the topic is just more unoriginal worthless partisan spinmeistering bs rhetoric too.

Of course the union come out in support for Obama's plan. No civil servant jobs are on the chopping block and I am sure the union would much prefer a program of amorphous R&D work where accountability and the need to produce can be more eaasily avoided. Last unions and the Democratic Party are tied at the hip so I am sure thus was just something the union decided to release on their own and not done at the request of the White House at all.